{"id":8106,"date":"2024-11-02T19:00:22","date_gmt":"2024-11-02T13:00:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/kglabs.org\/ripe-89-from-mountains-to-data-2024\/"},"modified":"2026-05-14T21:51:40","modified_gmt":"2026-05-14T15:51:40","slug":"ripe-89-from-mountains-to-data-2024","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kglabs.org\/ru\/ripe-89-from-mountains-to-data-2024\/","title":{"rendered":"From mountains to data: what we told RIPE 89 about LoRaWAN climate sensors"},"content":{"rendered":"\r\n<div class=\"wp-block-cover alignfull\" style=\"padding-top:72px;padding-right:24px;padding-bottom:56px;padding-left:24px;min-height:380px;aspect-ratio:unset;\"><span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-cover__background has-background-dim-100 has-background-dim\" style=\"background-color:#1E1E1E\"><\/span><div class=\"wp-block-cover__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-cover-is-layout-flow\">\r\n\r\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-f9ee79c1 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\r\n\r\n<p class=\"kg-eyebrow has-kg-deep-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\">Field Notes \u00b7 RIPE 89 \u00b7 Prague<\/p>\r\n\r\r\n\r\n<p class=\"has-kg-neutral-50-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\">At RIPE 89 in Prague I presented the seven things our LoRaWAN climate-sensor network has actually learned: when to use it, where the cheaper instruments match the expensive ones at 97% confidence, and which sensor types do not survive Kyrgyz mountain conditions.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"kg-eyebrow has-kg-neutral-300-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\">2024-11-02 \u00b7 Aziz Soltobaev \u00b7 KG Labs Foundation<\/p>\r\n\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n<\/div><\/div>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-f23a8af0 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"padding-top:56px;padding-right:24px;padding-bottom:80px;padding-left:24px\">\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap wp-block-paragraph\">This week I was in Prague at the RIPE 89 forum, where I presented the field results and the practical conclusions from the Internet Society Kyrgyz Chapter research project on internet-of-things devices with LoRaWAN support, used for monitoring natural disasters in high-altitude countries like Kyrgyzstan.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">RIPE meetings are uniquely useful gatherings of the people doing the actual technical work on the global internet. When that group is in the same room together, the volume of high-grade insight is impossible to absorb in the moment; the digestion takes weeks, until the next RIPE.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I want to put the seven main findings of our research project on the record here in plain language. These are not predictions. They are what the deployments have shown, after two years of running stations across geographically distinct zones in Kyrgyzstan.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"720\" height=\"1600\" src=\"https:\/\/kglabs.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/ripe-89-from-mountains-to-data-2024-01-3.jpg\" alt=\"Presenting From Mountains to Data at RIPE 89, Prague. The full deck is on the RIPE site; the takeaways are below.\" class=\"wp-image-8104\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kglabs.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/ripe-89-from-mountains-to-data-2024-01-3.jpg 720w, https:\/\/kglabs.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/ripe-89-from-mountains-to-data-2024-01-3-691x1536.jpg 691w, https:\/\/kglabs.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/ripe-89-from-mountains-to-data-2024-01-3-324x720.jpg 324w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Presenting From Mountains to Data at RIPE 89, Prague. The full deck is on the RIPE site; the takeaways are below.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\r\n\r\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1393\" height=\"960\" src=\"https:\/\/kglabs.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/ripe-89-from-mountains-to-data-2024-02-3.jpg\" alt=\"The corridor conversations at a RIPE meeting are the high-bandwidth part. The seven findings I am writing up below came out of those as much as out of the prepared talk.\" class=\"wp-image-8105\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kglabs.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/ripe-89-from-mountains-to-data-2024-02-3.jpg 1393w, https:\/\/kglabs.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/ripe-89-from-mountains-to-data-2024-02-3-960x662.jpg 960w, https:\/\/kglabs.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/ripe-89-from-mountains-to-data-2024-02-3-1280x882.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/kglabs.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/ripe-89-from-mountains-to-data-2024-02-3-480x331.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1393px) 100vw, 1393px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The corridor conversations at a RIPE meeting are the high-bandwidth part. The seven findings I am writing up below came out of those as much as out of the prepared talk.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What the field has taught us<\/h2>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">1. LoRaWAN works where cellular does not<\/h3>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The technology gives a useful path for monitoring sites where cellular coverage is absent or weak. In a country that is ninety per cent mountainous, the number of points worth observing that fall outside the cellular grid is large; LoRaWAN closes most of that gap at a reasonable cost.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">2. Second-tier weather stations match the references at 97% confidence<\/h3>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Meteorological stations costing under \u20ac3,000 produced results matching those from Vaisala and other premium brands costing above \u20ac30,000 \u2014 with a confidence level of 97%. The remaining 3% of error is associated with the use of satellite communications by the higher-cost instruments, which introduces a small error related to cosmic radiation. This means that, for almost every operational use case, the cheaper instrument is functionally equivalent.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">3. Mountain terrain is hard but offers long-range wireless options<\/h3>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mountain regions are difficult for both wired and wireless connectivity. They also offer opportunities for long-distance wireless links by exploiting high points and the diffraction patterns at sharp ridgelines. The radio planning is its own craft. The line of sight from the topographic map is not the line of sight on the ground; that has to be confirmed on foot.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">4. Resistive soil-moisture sensors do not work in our soils<\/h3>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sensors for soil moisture and temperature that use the resistive method of measurement are not suitable for loamy or rocky mountain soils. The reading drifts; calibration does not hold. For installation in Kyrgyz mountain conditions, capacitive or dielectric sensors are the path.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">5. Ice-covered, rocky, loamy soils need specialised sensor types<\/h3>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Once you are on a glaciated or near-glaciated surface, the standard agricultural sensor product line stops applying. The surface conditions \u2014 frozen, rocky, loamy \u2014 require sensors designed for those conditions. There is a manufacturing gap here that more deployments could help close, by giving sensor manufacturers a regional spec to design against.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">6. Ultrasonic river-level sensors are wrong for our rivers<\/h3>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ultrasonic sensors for measuring the level of river water are not suitable for fast-flowing, gradient-heavy mountain rivers. The water surface is too turbulent and too prone to froth; the ultrasonic ping does not return a clean reading. Pressure-based water-level sensors in stilling wells are the workable alternative for the kinds of rivers that come down out of Ala-Archa or out of Chong-Kemin.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">7. Sensor data volumes require ML to be useful<\/h3>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The volume of data generated by a multi-site, multi-sensor network is large enough that human analysis cannot keep up. Machine-learning and artificial-intelligence algorithms are required for analysis, identification, and ongoing monitoring of natural-disaster signatures inside the stream. This is the part that KG Labs Public Foundation is increasingly focused on, alongside the deployment work on the Internet Society side.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The materials<\/h2>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For anyone who wants the original presentation and the meeting record:<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\r\n<li>My RIPE 89 deck (English): <a href=\"https:\/\/ripe89.ripe.net\/presentations\/92-1-From-Mountains-to-Data-RIPE89-Meeting.pdf\">https:\/\/ripe89.ripe.net\/presentations\/92-1-From-Mountains-to-Data-RIPE89-Meeting.pdf<\/a><\/li>\r\n<li>RIPE 89 daily meeting blog: <a href=\"https:\/\/labs.ripe.net\/author\/ripe-ncc-commsies\/ripe-89-daily-meeting-blog\/\">https:\/\/labs.ripe.net\/author\/ripe-ncc-commsies\/ripe-89-daily-meeting-blog\/<\/a><\/li>\r\n<li>Recording of the talk: <a href=\"https:\/\/ripe89.ripe.net\/archives\/video\/1476\/\">https:\/\/ripe89.ripe.net\/archives\/video\/1476\/<\/a><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Why I think the framing matters<\/h2>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The reason I gave a RIPE talk and not a climate-science talk is that the climate-science community has, in most respects, accepted the case for low-cost distributed sensing. Where the bottleneck has been is on the communications and network-engineering side: how to actually get the data off the mountain, into a domestically hosted data store, and out to the people who need it, in real time, at a cost a national emergency-services budget can absorb.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The findings above are the part of that bottleneck we have moved. The audience that was best positioned to take them and apply them in other under-served high-altitude regions \u2014 Nepal, the Andes, the Caucasus, the Balkans \u2014 was sitting in that room in Prague.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><code>#ripe89 #IoT #internetofthings #ripecommunity #isockg<\/code><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This week I was in Prague at the RIPE 89 forum, where I presented the field results and the practical conclusions from the Internet Society Kyrgyz Chapter research project on internet-of-things devices with LoRaWAN support, used for monitoring natural disasters in high-altitude countries like Kyrgyzstan. 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